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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Kelly-Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly-Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed this article. Thanks for posting.
How do you feel about the notorious Chinese luxury knock-off market? 
How does this effect the luxe brands in China &amp; abroad? 
Also what about the brands who are secretly abandoning Italy to manufacture products in China at a lower cost?
Are these products (labeled: &quot;made in China with Italian fabric&quot;) truly luxury goods?
Also, I&#039;m curious how you feel about the overall globalization of fashion in general.
Personally, I don&#039;t like that I can shop in the same stores for the same product everywhere in the world now. Nothing is &quot;special&quot; or &quot;exclusive&quot; anymore.
And isn&#039;t that supposed to be what luxury is all about?
Luxury industry professional opinions would be appreciated.
Thanks,

Kelly-Ann</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed this article. Thanks for posting.<br />
How do you feel about the notorious Chinese luxury knock-off market?<br />
How does this effect the luxe brands in China &amp; abroad?<br />
Also what about the brands who are secretly abandoning Italy to manufacture products in China at a lower cost?<br />
Are these products (labeled: &#8220;made in China with Italian fabric&#8221;) truly luxury goods?<br />
Also, I&#8217;m curious how you feel about the overall globalization of fashion in general.<br />
Personally, I don&#8217;t like that I can shop in the same stores for the same product everywhere in the world now. Nothing is &#8220;special&#8221; or &#8220;exclusive&#8221; anymore.<br />
And isn&#8217;t that supposed to be what luxury is all about?<br />
Luxury industry professional opinions would be appreciated.<br />
Thanks,</p>
<p>Kelly-Ann</p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Olga Kovshanova, MBA, MA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olga Kovshanova, MBA, MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Interesting and useful--Thanks! 

Olga Kovshanova, MBA, MA
Hotel Professional Extraordinaire
Sales and Guest Relations Manager for CIS, Eastern Europe &amp; Greece
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Interesting and useful&#8211;Thanks! </p>
<p>Olga Kovshanova, MBA, MA<br />
Hotel Professional Extraordinaire<br />
Sales and Guest Relations Manager for CIS, Eastern Europe &amp; Greece<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:olinka@olinka.info">olinka@olinka.info</a><br />
Professional Website: <a href="http://www.olinka.info/" rel="nofollow">http://www.olinka.info/</a><br />
Skype name: olinkaru<br />
M: 230-717-5790 evenings<br />
LinkedIn Profile: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/kovshanovaolga" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/in/kovshanovaolga</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Eduardo Stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eduardo Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article on this topic, which is becoming a rising concern among Brands that see their business concentrating increasingly in China, especially at a time when the Western world (Europe mainly) is not precisely presenting itself as  a  Growth source, in particular for Luxury products. How to address the risk of having a China dependence considering that the cycle of the Luxury Brands tends to shrink? Would love to hear your comments.
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article on this topic, which is becoming a rising concern among Brands that see their business concentrating increasingly in China, especially at a time when the Western world (Europe mainly) is not precisely presenting itself as  a  Growth source, in particular for Luxury products. How to address the risk of having a China dependence considering that the cycle of the Luxury Brands tends to shrink? Would love to hear your comments.<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Bob Francis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an Independent Distributor with Global Wealth Trade. We represent the FERI and FERI Mosh lines of jewellery and opened a new showroom and distribution center on Canton Road where all the other top end designer brands are. We are classy and are not cheap, but have lines that accommodate all pocketbooks. Our showroom was started there by the daughter of one of the largest dealers in China and Hong Kong, who owns over 60 outlets.

I live in Canada and have not been to Canton Road, but my understanding is clearly that each store has line-ups of people clamouring to purchase the best of the best. I do believe what you say, Nathalie, about &quot;consuming&quot; brands quickly, however, I am with the thought that most of the brands you speak of have been in the mainstream around the world for decades and some a century. This indicates to me that the circle of the Chinese who purchase and repurchase is elite in their society and many are familiar to one another.

My thought as well, as China emerges ever-increasingly, the luxury brands will be affordable to a much larger population there. Is there opportunity for the best to survive? I think so, but only if the brand stays put and is patient with the growing pains.

Please contact me through my website for additional information about my company.

Respectfully Yours,
Bob Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an Independent Distributor with Global Wealth Trade. We represent the FERI and FERI Mosh lines of jewellery and opened a new showroom and distribution center on Canton Road where all the other top end designer brands are. We are classy and are not cheap, but have lines that accommodate all pocketbooks. Our showroom was started there by the daughter of one of the largest dealers in China and Hong Kong, who owns over 60 outlets.</p>
<p>I live in Canada and have not been to Canton Road, but my understanding is clearly that each store has line-ups of people clamouring to purchase the best of the best. I do believe what you say, Nathalie, about &#8220;consuming&#8221; brands quickly, however, I am with the thought that most of the brands you speak of have been in the mainstream around the world for decades and some a century. This indicates to me that the circle of the Chinese who purchase and repurchase is elite in their society and many are familiar to one another.</p>
<p>My thought as well, as China emerges ever-increasingly, the luxury brands will be affordable to a much larger population there. Is there opportunity for the best to survive? I think so, but only if the brand stays put and is patient with the growing pains.</p>
<p>Please contact me through my website for additional information about my company.</p>
<p>Respectfully Yours,<br />
Bob Francis</p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Jim Ruxin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Ruxin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ironic that the wealthy in China partly behave like the post war American middle class.

Americans ran to the security and constancy of the middle so they could keep up with the Joneses...to prove they were no longer poor, not immigrants or modern, progressive and current.  It was anonymity, conformity in an improved situation that comforted them.  No longer hungry and now first generation assimilated.  They didn;t want to lose their gains, so recent was their memory of pre war poverty.

The wealthy Chinese seem to want to prove they are no longer middle class, and want exclusivity.  The have security but don&#039;t want the anonymity of mere luxury goods the middle class can afford.
The challenge of being fed and housed are not threatening,  but their status is always threatened by the middle class corrupting their gains.  Their comfort is in isolation and privilege.  So ironic in a culture that used communism to justify dictatorial social policy and wquelch personal freedoms.

Of course both the 1950s American middle class, with its desire to conform, and the wealthy Chinese now have both been foolish, dehumanizing themselves by judging the quality of their lives by material possessions around them and status, instead of examining their self-worth, productivity, creativity, emotional satisfaction and the sense they have contributed something to the world besides consumption.

They share an egotistical fascination with the self, and ignore the greater rewards of a life engaged in real productivity, providing goods and services that make someone else more productive.

This is a higher order of an economy, that values long term growth and human capital.  It is something both cultures should aspire to, but do not...yet.  Both cultures have ignored their own pasts and those forces which have made them great, for a brief time.  But greatness needs to be renewed...it is a dynamic force, and no dynamic thinking has emerged from either culture to
move into a more intelligent future.

Change is slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ironic that the wealthy in China partly behave like the post war American middle class.</p>
<p>Americans ran to the security and constancy of the middle so they could keep up with the Joneses&#8230;to prove they were no longer poor, not immigrants or modern, progressive and current.  It was anonymity, conformity in an improved situation that comforted them.  No longer hungry and now first generation assimilated.  They didn;t want to lose their gains, so recent was their memory of pre war poverty.</p>
<p>The wealthy Chinese seem to want to prove they are no longer middle class, and want exclusivity.  The have security but don&#8217;t want the anonymity of mere luxury goods the middle class can afford.<br />
The challenge of being fed and housed are not threatening,  but their status is always threatened by the middle class corrupting their gains.  Their comfort is in isolation and privilege.  So ironic in a culture that used communism to justify dictatorial social policy and wquelch personal freedoms.</p>
<p>Of course both the 1950s American middle class, with its desire to conform, and the wealthy Chinese now have both been foolish, dehumanizing themselves by judging the quality of their lives by material possessions around them and status, instead of examining their self-worth, productivity, creativity, emotional satisfaction and the sense they have contributed something to the world besides consumption.</p>
<p>They share an egotistical fascination with the self, and ignore the greater rewards of a life engaged in real productivity, providing goods and services that make someone else more productive.</p>
<p>This is a higher order of an economy, that values long term growth and human capital.  It is something both cultures should aspire to, but do not&#8230;yet.  Both cultures have ignored their own pasts and those forces which have made them great, for a brief time.  But greatness needs to be renewed&#8230;it is a dynamic force, and no dynamic thinking has emerged from either culture to<br />
move into a more intelligent future.</p>
<p>Change is slow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Kelly Sherman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelly Sherman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious about the influence of the fake market on the deterioration of brands. I wonder if Chinese are able to reproduce a branded product and saturate the fake market so quickly that the brand becomes less exclusive, not because the Chinese get bored, but because everyone has convincing fakes and it actually IS less exclusive. Therefore a new brand on the scene has the authentic, but short-lived, ability to denote status and luxury. Would love to know your thoughts. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious about the influence of the fake market on the deterioration of brands. I wonder if Chinese are able to reproduce a branded product and saturate the fake market so quickly that the brand becomes less exclusive, not because the Chinese get bored, but because everyone has convincing fakes and it actually IS less exclusive. Therefore a new brand on the scene has the authentic, but short-lived, ability to denote status and luxury. Would love to know your thoughts. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Chine luxe prospective : l'incroyable cycle de vie éphémère des marques du luxe &#124; Proâme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chine luxe prospective : l'incroyable cycle de vie éphémère des marques du luxe &#124; Proâme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] vous invite vivement à lire sur le blog de Zhenji ce billet : the-incredible-shrinking-life-cycle-of-luxury-brands-in-china  Comme l&#8217;explique très bien Nathalie Omori &#8211; si tout le monde est conscient de la [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] vous invite vivement à lire sur le blog de Zhenji ce billet : the-incredible-shrinking-life-cycle-of-luxury-brands-in-china  Comme l&#8217;explique très bien Nathalie Omori &#8211; si tout le monde est conscient de la [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Pastora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pastora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 18:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting this article. I specialize in fashion, and I am studying the Chinese market from different variables. I am preparing a course taught in China fashion, and my main goal is to understand the phicologia China. There is a saying here in Europe that says you never know what you think Chinese. My aim to capture some signals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting this article. I specialize in fashion, and I am studying the Chinese market from different variables. I am preparing a course taught in China fashion, and my main goal is to understand the phicologia China. There is a saying here in Europe that says you never know what you think Chinese. My aim to capture some signals.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Passini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Passini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toujours aussi intéressant : capacité ultra rapide des chinois à s’adapter … versatilité … besoin de toujours plus de luxe haut de gamme vs Occident
Une question Nathalie : est ce que la culture d’appréciation (le goût) progresse vraiment ou est une course de consommaztion genre pour les chinois la face du paraître à son maximum
Par ailleurs feront ils comme pour les autres domaines (techno etc) une assimilation rapide pour se positionner ensuite avec leur propre produit sur le marché du luxe ici ?
Maryline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toujours aussi intéressant : capacité ultra rapide des chinois à s’adapter … versatilité … besoin de toujours plus de luxe haut de gamme vs Occident<br />
Une question Nathalie : est ce que la culture d’appréciation (le goût) progresse vraiment ou est une course de consommaztion genre pour les chinois la face du paraître à son maximum<br />
Par ailleurs feront ils comme pour les autres domaines (techno etc) une assimilation rapide pour se positionner ensuite avec leur propre produit sur le marché du luxe ici ?<br />
Maryline</p>
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		<title>Comment on The incredible, shrinking life cycle of luxury brands in China by Passini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Passini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toujours aussi intéressant : capacité ultra rapide des chinois à s&#039;adapter ... versatilité  ... besoin de toujours plus de luxe haut de gamme vs Occident 
Une question Nathalie : est ce que la culture d&#039;appréciation (le goût) progresse vraiment ou est une course de consommaztion genre pour les chinois la face du paraître à son maximum 
Par ailleurs feront ils comme pour les autres domaines (techno etc) une assimilation rapide pour se positionner ensuite avec leur propre produit sur le marché du luxe ici ? 
Maryline</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toujours aussi intéressant : capacité ultra rapide des chinois à s&#8217;adapter &#8230; versatilité  &#8230; besoin de toujours plus de luxe haut de gamme vs Occident<br />
Une question Nathalie : est ce que la culture d&#8217;appréciation (le goût) progresse vraiment ou est une course de consommaztion genre pour les chinois la face du paraître à son maximum<br />
Par ailleurs feront ils comme pour les autres domaines (techno etc) une assimilation rapide pour se positionner ensuite avec leur propre produit sur le marché du luxe ici ?<br />
Maryline</p>
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